Comments on: Double Standards http://www.theolivepress.es/2009/05/01/double-standards/ Andalucia's Fortnightly News Publication Sat, 13 Mar 2010 08:18:16 +0200 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Fred http://www.theolivepress.es/2009/05/01/double-standards/comment-page-1/#comment-50399 Fred Fri, 24 Jul 2009 14:47:11 +0000 http://www.theolivepress.es/?p=2433#comment-50399 Koba what is this "state of divisiveness" you talk about? There is already a divide between expats and the Spanish, indeed it's more off a large chasm, indeed a cultural abyss. I laugh when I hear expats talking of "integrating". Juan, this is a forum for debate - if you don't like what you read, it's simple.... don't visit :) Byeeee. Koba what is this “state of divisiveness” you talk about? There is already a divide between expats and the Spanish, indeed it’s more off a large chasm, indeed a cultural abyss. I laugh when I hear expats talking of “integrating”. Juan, this is a forum for debate – if you don’t like what you read, it’s simple…. don’t visit :) Byeeee.

]]> By: Trevor http://www.theolivepress.es/2009/05/01/double-standards/comment-page-1/#comment-50394 Trevor Fri, 24 Jul 2009 11:28:33 +0000 http://www.theolivepress.es/?p=2433#comment-50394 Fair point Koba and I agree that we have both made our positions clear as is the boundaries of an open forum. I'm not into a war of words with you after all and I shall be monitoring the site on behalf of my family and the participating villagers for more productive postings and genuine issues. Fair point Koba and I agree that we have both made our positions clear as is the boundaries of an open forum. I’m not into a war of words with you after all and I shall be monitoring the site on behalf of my family and the participating villagers for more productive postings and genuine issues.

]]> By: Koba http://www.theolivepress.es/2009/05/01/double-standards/comment-page-1/#comment-50392 Koba Fri, 24 Jul 2009 11:11:12 +0000 http://www.theolivepress.es/?p=2433#comment-50392 Dear Trevor, I haven't found any of Juan Bau's comments useful and nor do I, personally, agree with them. But I'm not keen on anyone speaking on my behalf. I have no doubt that you and your fellow villages have found some of the material posted in this forum useful and relevant to your circumstances. What I will say in regard to Juan Bau's comments is this. There have been quite a few comments posted to this forum in the past that in my opinion are very derogatory and insulting to Spain and the Spanish people and quite without justification. And I am of the opinion that such comments have contributed (albeit not exclusively) to create a state of divisiveness between some Spanish and some British contributors to the forum. I should point out two things. Firstly I do not include you as one of the British contributors who have caused this state of divisiveness to occur. Secondly I do not claim that all of my own past contributions to this forum have been of an entirely positive sentiment. I accept my own share of the guilt. But I do want to propagate the view that not all British people, whether they contribute to this forum or not, share some of the more colourful views that have been expressed about Spanish people. Dear Trevor, I haven’t found any of Juan Bau’s comments useful and nor do I, personally, agree with them. But I’m not keen on anyone speaking on my behalf.

I have no doubt that you and your fellow villages have found some of the material posted in this forum useful and relevant to your circumstances.

What I will say in regard to Juan Bau’s comments is this. There have been quite a few comments posted to this forum in the past that in my opinion are very derogatory and insulting to Spain and the Spanish people and quite without justification. And I am of the opinion that such comments have contributed (albeit not exclusively) to create a state of divisiveness between some Spanish and some British contributors to the forum.

I should point out two things. Firstly I do not include you as one of the British contributors who have caused this state of divisiveness to occur. Secondly I do not claim that all of my own past contributions to this forum have been of an entirely positive sentiment. I accept my own share of the guilt. But I do want to propagate the view that not all British people, whether they contribute to this forum or not, share some of the more colourful views that have been expressed about Spanish people.

]]> By: Trevor http://www.theolivepress.es/2009/05/01/double-standards/comment-page-1/#comment-50391 Trevor Fri, 24 Jul 2009 10:33:28 +0000 http://www.theolivepress.es/?p=2433#comment-50391 Fair-Do's Koba, I'll take that one on the chin.... I and members in the same village (who incidentally I speak for) have found this site to be very useful in terms of the problems that we experienced recently and it was reasuring to know that we were not alone and that the useful advise offered from other members in this forum resulted in multiple positive outcomes.So naturally we were quite affronted that such a personal attack on the Brits abroad had been made so publically on this site and by a party that has not been in any of the previous threads. Clearly as you do not feel the same, It would appear then that the character has served their purpose by planting a divide between regional subscribers. As I haven't seen a posted response from you re. El-Bau's comments I and the rest of the village would be interested to know which part of his/her communications you have found useful? Fair-Do’s Koba, I’ll take that one on the chin….

I and members in the same village (who incidentally I speak for) have found this site to be very useful in terms of the problems that we experienced recently and it was reasuring to know that we were not alone and that the useful advise offered from other members in this forum resulted in multiple positive outcomes.So naturally we were quite affronted that such a personal attack on the Brits abroad had been made so publically on this site and by a party that has not been in any of the previous threads.

Clearly as you do not feel the same, It would appear then that the character has served their purpose by planting a divide between regional subscribers. As I haven’t seen a posted response from you re. El-Bau’s comments I and the rest of the village would be interested to know which part of his/her communications you have found useful?

]]> By: Koba http://www.theolivepress.es/2009/05/01/double-standards/comment-page-1/#comment-50388 Koba Fri, 24 Jul 2009 10:05:09 +0000 http://www.theolivepress.es/?p=2433#comment-50388 Dear Trevor. Just today (Friday 24 July) you said, "your negative and invalid comments are not welcome here". I think you made a similar statement a few days ago. Maybe I missed something. But have you had bestowed upon you some kind of authority to represent and comment on behalf of all the readers and contributors of this forum? Whether I, or in fact anyone else other than you, consider Juan Bau's comments to be welcome or not, please do not assume that you speak for anyone else other than yourself. Regards Koba Dear Trevor. Just today (Friday 24 July) you said, “your negative and invalid comments are not welcome here”. I think you made a similar statement a few days ago.

Maybe I missed something. But have you had bestowed upon you some kind of authority to represent and comment on behalf of all the readers and contributors of this forum?

Whether I, or in fact anyone else other than you, consider Juan Bau’s comments to be welcome or not, please do not assume that you speak for anyone else other than yourself.

Regards
Koba

]]> By: Trevor http://www.theolivepress.es/2009/05/01/double-standards/comment-page-1/#comment-50386 Trevor Fri, 24 Jul 2009 09:00:57 +0000 http://www.theolivepress.es/?p=2433#comment-50386 Yawn...you still here? You are right about one thing El-Bau, we will make all the comments we wish as this is a British site set up for the British to air our frustrations, pains and indeed successes in navigating our way through your archaic political processes. So in doing a full 360, your negative and invalid comments are not welcome here...they serve no purpose and they are boring.....bye, bye Yawn…you still here?

You are right about one thing El-Bau, we will make all the comments we wish as this is a British site set up for the British to air our frustrations, pains and indeed successes in navigating our way through your archaic political processes. So in doing a full 360, your negative and invalid comments are not welcome here…they serve no purpose and they are boring…..bye, bye

]]> By: Juan Bau http://www.theolivepress.es/2009/05/01/double-standards/comment-page-1/#comment-50384 Juan Bau Fri, 24 Jul 2009 08:38:02 +0000 http://www.theolivepress.es/?p=2433#comment-50384 make all the comments that you wish. but why are the english so convinced that they are welcomed wherever they go? if you have been cheated here in spain, then leave. i do not see any outcry from the spanish population regarding your plight... trevor and fred, you are both so wise... perhaps you should leave spain and assist your country with all its problems?? it is a shame you both are wasting your collective talents in small, backward, uneducated spain... make all the comments that you wish. but why are the english so convinced that they are welcomed wherever they go? if you have been cheated here in spain, then leave. i do not see any outcry from the spanish population regarding your plight… trevor and fred, you are both so wise… perhaps you should leave spain and assist your country with all its problems?? it is a shame you both are wasting your collective talents in small, backward, uneducated spain…

]]> By: Fred http://www.theolivepress.es/2009/05/01/double-standards/comment-page-1/#comment-50361 Fred Thu, 23 Jul 2009 07:21:35 +0000 http://www.theolivepress.es/?p=2433#comment-50361 Juan changes the subject lol. Juan changes the subject lol.

]]> By: Trevor http://www.theolivepress.es/2009/05/01/double-standards/comment-page-1/#comment-50358 Trevor Thu, 23 Jul 2009 07:06:52 +0000 http://www.theolivepress.es/?p=2433#comment-50358 Here's five words El-Bau.... ¿no tienen un burro para alimentar a algún lugar? Here’s five words El-Bau….
¿no tienen un burro para alimentar a algún lugar?

]]> By: John-Juan http://www.theolivepress.es/2009/05/01/double-standards/comment-page-1/#comment-50342 John-Juan Wed, 22 Jul 2009 16:43:58 +0000 http://www.theolivepress.es/?p=2433#comment-50342 Perhaps the nonsense Fred and others refer to would become more sense when just the first Expat living in Spain makes the supreme, extraordinary, heroic effort to speak and understand more than five words of Spanish language. Come on, we know you can do it, if you try. Perhaps the nonsense Fred and others refer to would become more sense when just the first Expat living in Spain makes the supreme, extraordinary, heroic effort to speak and understand more than five words of Spanish language. Come on, we know you can do it, if you try.

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