Comments on: The season of bad will

By: Fred

Fred — Fri, 29 Jan 2010 19:07:15 +0000

Pete, well done. You explain the reality of Spain 100% correctly.

By: Mona Lisa

Mona Lisa — Fri, 29 Jan 2010 12:49:28 +0000

Steve: The EU has been informed about this, and they are threatening to withhold 185 mill. € if the Spanish government don’t change their ways! We are at the moment, fighting to keep our property here at the Costa del Sol, as the Junta de Andalucia belives that the Costa del Sol (El culo del España) needs a 4 mill. m2 industrial park! This is supposed to be the Project of Opportunity, but only a opportunity to the people in power – the rest of us… Well, they are saying they will offer us 0,40 € for our land and the houses (legal) – adios! And, what do you think will happen when they have 4 mill. m2 of land, classification will be changed and everything will become urbanized. Welcome to Spain!!!

By: pete

pete — Wed, 13 Jan 2010 18:26:02 +0000

I’ve lived all over the world, Africa, Asia, Europe… I’ve experienced some very corrupted political systems. I’m sorry to say it, but Spain is the worst by far, it’s like the Wild West. And it’s not just the political system, it goes deeper than that – it’s a cultural attitude. Every single Spanish lawyer, agent or bank I’ve ever dealt with here has tried to pull a fast one of some description. I’ve never had to pay so many bribes in my life, not even in Nigeria. There’s something seriously wrong with the Spanish sense of morality, or rather, lack of it. And don’t get me started on the racism or the lack of work ethic…

By: ben

ben — Wed, 30 Dec 2009 14:05:39 +0000

It’s not “spain” that’s corrupt its the spanish politicians and the local government system. This could not happen in some other EU countries eg Scandinavia or Germany, on such a widespread scale. The system is the problem and all municipal powers for areas with a population under 50,000 should be administered centrally by a regional authority like the Junta. Untill there is systemic change only the symptoms of the problem will be sporadically dealt with, not the problem itself.

By: Paul

Paul — Wed, 23 Dec 2009 11:38:11 +0000

The cases in Chiclana per se Bob are that the Ayuntamiento have an “Eye in the Sky” flying over the whole of Chiclana de la Frontera the whole of the year taking photographs and if and when a case is challenged in court the Councils Lawyers are able to produce as evidence photographs to show what a particular area of land was like, whether there was a building on it or not or building going on at ANY particular time in ANY particular year.IF the Council can carry this out then WHY CAN THEY NOT STOP THE ILLEGAL BUILDING CONTINUING IN THE FIRST PLACE and arrest those responsible and charge them and take them to court? Simply because it is NOT in their interest to do so and because of the whole chain where the builders spend money in Chiclanas building industry buying materials which would close without them, then consider the estate agents, lawyers etc who receive further work from the building of the same single property and don’t forget any backhanders for turning a blind-eye.Welcome to the REAL-WORLD OF CHICLANA BOB,NOT THE UTOPIA YOU APPARENTLY LIVE IN!

By: obama

obama — Wed, 23 Dec 2009 00:26:27 +0000

its easy to see why the rest of the civilised world will always see spain as a primitive & corrupt country who cant really be trusted

By: steve cole

steve cole — Tue, 22 Dec 2009 15:54:44 +0000

What ever way you look at this its very hard on the occupiers. If the builder had been served with a notice not to build why were they not stopped by the police then and arrested?

I agree that builders should not be allowed to flout planning rules. Where I live a big two story blot on the landscape was built in Pago last year. It was reported to the planning department when in progress – nothing was done.
I think a lot of “who you know” has effect. Spain has completly screwd it’s self in the property market. This will carry on until they can see that having the foxes in charge of the chickens is not a good way.

By: Fred

Fred — Tue, 22 Dec 2009 13:30:53 +0000

No of course not, but you don’t know the full truth of this case. My comments are general; people will see the demolitions and it will just be lumped together with all the other instances of planning irregularities and corruption – that’s my point. And there’s still no contradiction in my original post, Bob.

To build a house one needs the involvement of planning people, ayuntamientos, lawyers, notaries etc etc. So they should all be in jail too. Are they? No… the law being upheld in this way is ultimately punishing the little people, not the people higher up the chain.

By: Bob

Bob — Tue, 22 Dec 2009 11:34:37 +0000

Fred, are you suggesting that builders who clearly and knowingly, flout the law, should continue to be ignored?

This man had ample notice that he should cease building.

By: Bob

Bob — Tue, 22 Dec 2009 11:33:53 +0000

Fred, are you suggesting that builders who clearly and knowingly, flout the law, should be ignored?

This man had ample notice that he should cease building.